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Playing the Iron Cross at Craps

By Jerry 'Stickman'

The lure of playing the Iron Cross bet in the game of craps revolves around the fact that you get paid when any number is thrown – any number but the 7 that is. The Iron Cross bet consists of a one unit place (or pass line) bet on the 5, 6 and 8 plus a one unit field bet. An example is a $30 6 and 8, a $25 5 and a $25 Field. The field bet pays when a 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, or 12 is thrown. Most field bets pay double when a 2 or 12 is thrown, but sometimes the 2 or 12 pays triple.

I have mentioned in previous articles that the Iron Cross is not all that great a bet. Actually exhorting players to avoid this bet is a better description of previous articles. This is because the house edge on the total bet is simple a sum of each portion of the bet times the house edge on that portion. The house edge on the 6 and 8 is 1.52%. The edge on the 5 is 4.00%. Where the 2 and 12 pay double, the house edge on the field bet is 5.56% and if the 2 or 12 pays triple, the edge is 2.78%. Overall the total edge for the Iron Cross is 3.87% if the 2 and 12 pay double. It is reduced to 2.49% if the 2 or 12 pays triple. Even at its best, the Iron Cross extracts almost a full percent more than the 6 and 8 place bets, so logic dictates that the money should be placed on the 6 and 8.

But gamblers – actually human beings – are not necessarily logical creatures. I have to admit that I have watched sadly and somewhat enviously as others at the table collect on bet after bet while I patiently wait for a 6 or 8 to hit. So recently I decided to try the Iron Cross when my point was a 5. Though giving up some house edge I am not a masochist, so I only tried this in casinos that pay triple for a 2 or 12, making the house edge 2.49% - not great, but tolerable for a research project.

I was surprised by how excited I was when the first opportunity presented itself. My point was 5, so I placed the 6 and 8 (which is normal for me), and then added the field bet. The numbers rolled that first time were: 10 (collect one unit), 4 (collect one unit), 9 (collect one unit), 6 (collect 1.2 units but lose one unit on the field), 6 (collect 1.2 units and lose one), 8 (collect 1.2 units and lose 1), and it continued.

It felt great collecting on the 10, 4, 9 and other field numbers. It sure hurt, however, collecting a 6 or 8 and losing the field bet, making the net win only one-sixth of normal.

Wanting to give the research a decent test, I continued to bet the Iron Cross every time my point was a 5. Over the period of several days shooting there was ample opportunity to play it. On long rolls I would press the 6 or 8 with the extra units I won by hitting field numbers. By doing this, the effect of losing the field bet when hitting the 6 or 8 is lessened.

After a week of playing the Iron Cross, here are my observations and feelings.

It is nice receiving all the extra payoffs from hitting the field numbers. It is particularly nice making some money off the 11 and the craps numbers 2, 3, and 12. The double payoff on the 2 and the triple payoff on a 12 are really fun.

Although, as a 'logical' person it shouldn’t have, the psychological effect of losing the field bet on a 6 or 8 really impacted me. Being used to collecting the full amount when hitting these numbers, having it diminished by ponying up another field bet affected me more than ever expected. In fact, it more than made up for the exhilaration of collecting on more numbers. Add to this the fact that nearly an extra 1% is donated to the house by betting the Iron Cross, any desire to play this system in the future has been purged.

No longer will I be envious of those collecting on field. I will continue to bet as in the past: place the 6 and 8, possibly buy the 4 and 10 if the vig is paid on wins only. If I want to get more numbers in play, adding a come bet or two is the way to go.

While not collecting as often, I will never lose one bet while winning another – and, the house edge will be limited to 1.5% or less on all my bets. That way I have the best chance of winning some of the casinos money.

While playing the best bets is sometimes not easy, winning more (or losing less) is much more satisfying. Stick with the math of the game and improve your results.

Jerry 'Stickman' is an expert in craps, blackjack and video poker and advantage slot machine play. He is a regular contributor to top gaming magazines. The 'Stickman' is also a certified instructor for Golden Touch Craps and Golden Touch Blackjack. For more information visit www.goldentouchcraps.com or www.goldentouchblackjack.com or call 1-886-738-3423. You can contact Jerry 'Stickman' at stickmanGTC@aol.com

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Ive seen some people play the iron cross in live play as well as make some videos on youtube about it. In both instances i observe that the basic problem arises when you bet on the 5 6 8 and the field simultaneously. you will lose in the field if the top of the cross hits and wont hit enough on the bottom to make it worth it in the field. If you want to bet both the 5 6 8 and field numbers then split your field bet numbers on the prop bets which pay more. they are still one roll bets and you get paid more to boot. the only other numbers you get any action on in the field is the 4 9 and 10. in which case you get odds placing and buying. so the whole logic behind playing the cross doesnt make sense to me from an odds perspective of getting more for each dollar you bet.

There are four possible scenarios for the Iron Cross wager, based on the two most important criteria affecting the house advantage, viz-a-viz whether the Field 12 pays 2:1 or 3:1 and whether Buys collect commissions on every bet or just on wins:
Scenario 1: The Field 12 only pays double and Buy bets surrender commission on every resolution, win or lose
In this case, you'll Place (rather than Buy) the 5 @ $5 a pop, Place $6 on each the Six and the 8, and Field bet $5 per roll. The total amount bet will be $5 x 10 5-box resolutions in 36 rolls = $50, $6 x 2 x 11 = $132 on the Six and 8, and $5 x 36 = $180 on the Field, or $362 in all. In 36 rolls, the return will be $48 from the 5, $130 from the Six and 8, and $170 from the Field, or $348 in all, a deficit of $14, and thus a house edge E = -$14/$362 = -3.867%.
Scenario 2: The Field 12 only pays double, but Buy bets surrender commission only on wins
Here, Buying the 5 at $21 (not $20) a bet is optimal ($210 in all) and proportionally placing $24 at a time each on the Six and 8 ($528 in all) and $20 per roll on the Field ($720 in all) makes a total investment of $1,458 in 36 rolls. The total return will be all but $52, giving E = -$52/$1,458 = -3.567%.
Scenario 3: The Field 12 pays triple, but Buy bets surrender commission on every win or loss
The results here are the same as those for 1, except for the increased Field 12 pay, or only $9 lost, and a diminished E = -2.486%.
Scenario 4: The Field 12 pays triple and Buy bets only surrender commission on wins
The optimal situation, returning $20 more than 2, or losing only $32 out of $1,458, and minimizing E = -2.195%.
Clearly, the biggest contributor to frugalizing the Iron Cross system is the presence of the Triple-12 Field.Can this thread be moved to DT ? I believe they have a prayer channel there.

The basic problem with the 'iron cross' is that every one of the bets in it is negative expectation.

Awww . You say that like it's a bad thing.

The basic problem with the 'iron cross' is that every one of the bets in it is negative expectation.

That's not a problem peculiar to the Iron Cross; that's the problem with betting in any casino, period.

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when the fields pays 3x12 the bet becomes a better bet than placing the 5 & 9.
HOWEVER......... the casino makes its money by paying you less than proper odds on
all your bets.
Even if you hit your number , the casino has a built in vig.....
So you play the iron cross, what happens.
for every $100 you bet on the 4 & 10 the casino keeps $6.67
for every $100 you bet on 5 & 9 ( the casino keeps $4.00
for every $100 you bet on 6 & 8 the casino keeps $1.52
for every $100 you bet on field, the casino keeps $2.78 ( 3x12) or $5.56 at 2x12

That's when your making these bets separately. Each of these bets resolves at a different average rate (each 4- or 10-box every four rolls; each 5- or 9-box every 3.6 rolls; each 6- or 8-box every 3.27 rolls, The Field, every roll), so your comparison is apples to pomegranates to oranges to kiwis. The Iron Cross is a coverage bet, with a single-roll and a multi-roll component, combining separate wagers, each one with its own NX, but each is weighted differently because none resolve the same number of times in the Cycle of Rolls. The numbers don't lie - on a liberal Triple-pay-12 Field table, $1,000 bet consistently on the Iron Cross is expected to only lose about $22 or $25. I can live with that.

If you like the Iron Cross, you'll love the easy peezie.
Bet every easy way for one unit each (15 units) and you win one unit every time you don't roll a pair!
EASY PEEZIE!
You win 5 out of 6 rolls JUST LIKE THE IRON CROSS but you ALWAYS WIN THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT. So there's nothing confusing about it!
If you understand why you might not want to bet this way, but you don't understand why you might not want to bet the iron cross, consider that the composite edge per roll or the iron cross is ten times as high as a max odds strategy, just like EASY PEEZIE(sm) has an edge that is ten times as high as the Iron Cross.
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